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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 20 Jul 93       Volume 11 : Issue 146

Today's Topics:

      [*] babysmash5.0 (new version)
      [*] TidBITS#185/19-Jul-93
      (Q) Where is Workgroup Server 80 and Appleshare 4?
      (R) Backup onto Flopticals
      -HELLOs- needed...
      650 meg MO drives ?
      A/UX 3.0 Screen Resolution (Q)
      Apple's Higher Ed Gopher Server is on INFO.HED.APPLE.COM port 70
      Apple CD150 - same as Digital's RR42-DA ??
      BabySmash author (Q)
      Backing up to flopticals (C)
      DayMaker 2.03
      Digest->AOL
      FastPath IV is unreliable (
      Forms generation (A)
      FoxBase- redirect debug window output to a file
      FullWrite Press Release
      Hypercard Font Problem (TY)
      Info about the Apple Newton MessagePad
      Macworld Boston info. (Q)
      McSink and Style Writer II
      Movie2Snd reply
      MS Word 4.00(?) and System 7.1
      My Gripe With SCSI
      Need bad-block checker BADLY! (R)
      Pinouts for Monitor
      RasterOps incompatibilities? (C)
      re- john pugh
      SUMMARY: advice for text editor
      System can't be installed & a whimsical floppy drive (R)
      Uploading info-mac to AOL
      Vertical Persuassion ?
      WORD 5.1/IICI PROBLEMS

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Date: 20 Jul 1993 10:29:59 -0700
From: [e-mail] (thomas loomis)
Subject: [*] babysmash5.0 (new version)

Hmmmmmm. How do you propose to deal with the not-so-rare
baby that gets a BIG kick out of it, and decides to pound your
keyboard into little pieces?

                Tom Loomis
            whose babies are now heading to college...

            daddy-bank-account-smash.hqx!

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 22:04:57 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#185/19-Jul-93

TidBITS#185/19-Jul-93

Apple layoffs and Microseeds dropping Rival - where will it end?
   Not with the Newton or the PowerPC, that's for sure, and we
   have more details on those two hot topics. Bill Seitz reports
   on PC Expo, Matt Neuburg comments on censorship on the Internet
   in New Zealand, and we take a long look at how the Internet is
   worming its way into government at the level of elected
   officials.

Topics:
    MailBITS/19-Jul-93
    Apple Layoffs
    Centris/Quadra/PowerPC Notes
    MessagePad Trickles In
    Rival Changes Hands
    PC Expo Comments
    Letter from the Antipodes: Censorship on the Internet
    The Internet Goes to Washington
    Reviews/19-Jul-93

[Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-185.etx; 29K]

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 23:44:31 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (Q) Where is Workgroup Server 80 and Appleshare 4?

Both the Workgroup Server 80 and Appleshare 4.0 were announced back in March,
along with Workgroup Server 95 and Appleshare Pro. The latter two have been
out for a while, but the former two are nowhere to be found. Does anyone have
any concrete information as to when they will be released?

Maurice Volaski

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 23:31:31 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (R) Backup onto Flopticals

Allan Hunter <[e-mail]> said (in I-M V11 I114):

> The System 6 finder knows it as a floppy (can Eject using snowflake-
> E) and dialogue boxes such as Open and Save As and Save have a live
> Eject button handy.  I'd be surprised if Compact Pro didn't ask you

All these features are also applicable to Finder 7. In fact, when I was
editing this reply, I was asked to re-insert one floppy diskette that I
had Ejected from my Floptical drive under Finder.

As for CompactPro, I haven't got the chance to try out yet.

Liu

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 19:19:48 EDT
From: Andrew Ross <[e-mail]>
Subject: -HELLOs- needed...

     HELLO's from all languages are needed for a display I am making.
     Would you please write HELLO in your language, or any/all
     languages you know, and send them on to me.

     A simple text file is great.  Or, if you use a writing system
     that is not based on Latin characters, a black & white image file
     would be super (ie. a card from HyperCard, screen snapshot, PICT,
     TIFF, etc.), using a font size >35 points to ensure a good
     resolution.

     Please don't forget to mention the language you are using, and if
     possible, a pronunciation guide in English.  All HELLO's will be
     compiled into one PICT file, and sent back to the site for everyone's
     use.

     A thousand thankyous,
     Andrew Ross ([e-mail])

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 20:39:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Thomas Burglin <[e-mail]>
Subject: 650 meg MO drives ?

Hi,
I am contemplating getting a 650 meg Magneto-Optical drive.
MacWorld had some tests in Nov 92, but since then other drives
have come out and I was wondering how they compare to each
other speedwise.
I am particularly interested in the Microtech Genesis 650
which can be gotten for around 1800$.
I have also seen Ricoh Hyperdrives for as low as 1999$, those
might be a bit faster (at least according to given access time 27ms).
The cheapest price I have found for the very fast 650 Pinacle is
around 2500$.
So, what kind of experience do people have with these drives.
Is the price difference from a Microtech to a Pinnacle worth it,
given that the Microtech is probably slower? (but how much slower?).
Any help would be appreciated (preferably by email).
Thanks
Thomas Burglin
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 12:58:45 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Thomas B White)
Subject: A/UX 3.0 Screen Resolution (Q)

My Quadra 700 (with 2MB VRAM) is attached to a 13" multiscan monitor,
and by using NEC's DPI-On-The-Fly monitor extension (under System
7.1), I can set the screen size to 832x624.  However, when I try to
use this software with A/UX 3.0, it does not seem to have any effect.

Does anyone know of an A/UX 3.0 (-compatible) program that can change
the resolution of the screen?  I'd really like to be able to run X11
with more screen real estate.  If there's no such program out there,
does anyone have any technical information about A/UX 3.0 which would
help me to write some code to do this?  Thanks!

Thomas B White
[e-mail]

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Date: 20 Jul 1993 06:14:36 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Kent Reuber)
Subject: Apple's Higher Ed Gopher Server is on INFO.HED.APPLE.COM port 70

I recently posted an article on Apple's July 12th price reduction that I
got from the Apple Higher Education gopher server. I've gotten a number of
responses asking me where this is, so I've decided to post it here. I
realize that this isn't the best group, but this is where the discussion
started. The server is:

info.hed.apple.com   port 70

Kent Reuber, Computational Specialist
Biology Department, Brandeis University
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 15:24:10 EDT
From: Brian Robertson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apple CD150 - same as Digital's RR42-DA ??

Dear Netters.

The Apple CD150 looks EXACTLY the same as the Digital RR42-DA, but costs only
about half as much. Is it the same ?? Can we attach it to our VAX ???

I'm sure I heard something about this on the Net, but I can't remember where.
Half an hour of Gopher and WAIS produced nothing useful.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ??

Thanks for your help.

Brian Robertson
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 22:11:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Thoo <[e-mail]>
Subject: BabySmash author (Q)

Does anyone know how I might contact Justin Cohen, the author of BabySmash
5.0?  I grabbed BabySmash from <sumex-aim> today, but could not open
it---I get a bad F-line error and a Type 10 error.

Thanks for your help.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>
``My _real_ computer is a Macintosh.''

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 00:39:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Systems Analyst - O.R.A.S." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Backing up to flopticals (C)

I saw recently some discussion on flopticals and backing up and I thought I
would share my experiences.  Last January, we bought a floptical and it has
turned out to be a great investment.  We have very valuable data sitting
on our drives, so we backup often (oh, to back up to floptical with Norton
Backup, simply choose Macintosh File, rather than 1.44 MB floppy, all works
the same).  Last week our hard drive crashed, and we were able to recover
practically everything from four flopticals.  I guess the moral is that
backing up is good, flopticals are very stable as compared to SyQuest and
Bernoulli, and for the price, you can't beat it!

Neil Schulman

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 09:33:48+010
From: [e-mail] (Alfonso Fuggetta)
Subject: DayMaker 2.03

Dear netters,

I have recently upgraded from DayMaker 1.0.1 to ver. 2.0.3.

When I try to launch the new version, I get a message saying that "this
version runs only on english language systems". Now my system IS an English
language system (BTW, I have a Powerbook 180 with system 7.1).

I have installed Daymaker 2.0.3 on a Mac SE/30 running System 7.0.1 and it
works.

I have called Pastel Dev. (Daymaker's producer) several times. I have left
them messages and sent faxes. It seems that they are not interest in
replying to their customers.

Does someone out there have any hint on how to solve this problem?

Thanks a lot,

Alfonso Fuggetta

([e-mail])

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 09:50:05 PDT
From: gla-aux![e-mail] (Glenn Austin)
Subject: Digest->AOL

In article <[e-mail]>
([e-mail]), you write:
> Adam Engst made the good suggestion that I ask my question here.
>
> That question is, does anyone reading this digest have access to AOL and the
> willingness to upload InfoMac Digests to AOL? All uploads to AOL are
rewarded
> with free time. Paul Bain used to do this (into the Developer's forum area),
> and he made a lot of people happy. Now however he has lost his Internet
> access (I lost mine over a year ago), so AOL's users have lost their morning
> Digest with coffee.
>
> Could anyone help? If you're reading this digest, you might as well get some
> free usage time on AOL & help us voracious Mac readers!
>
> Drop me a line if you need help or have questions. Thanks.

I might be able to do this -- all I would need to do is know where to upload
it, and I can set it for automatic upload (Frontier is always running on
my machine, and I can have it access my uAccess comp.sys.mac.digest file
for the latest digest and set it up to upload to AOL automatically...

Let me know what to do, and I'll set it up to do it automatically.

// Glenn L. Austin
// Macintosh Wizard and Auto Racing Driver
// Usenet:  [e-mail] or ...skinner!gla-aux!glenn

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 11:24:09 -0700
From: "ZIPPY::QUICKMAIL"@bones.nwrdc.wednet.edu (Benjamin Grossman)
Subject: FastPath IV is unreliable (

QuickMail<tm> from Benjamin Grossman
Attn:info mac
___________________________________________________________________

               Subject:
Time:11:08 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          FastPath IV is unreliable (R)
Date:7/20/93
Bruce Goldstein sezs:
> FastPath IV is unreliable on a "large" network and should not be
used.
>  You will notice delayed opening of the chooser, and devices
missing
> from zones at times.  A more modern router (PC with Novell Netware
> 3.11 works OK. Unfortunately, it won't route TCP/IP to our local
talk
> cable.

I disagree; I would suggest you are overstating the case seriously.

Yes, I agree the FP4 is less reliable than the FP5, or other newer
routers;
HOWEVER I have been running 40+ of them on a large network for some
time, with the only problems being a certain tendency to lose
settings
when we lose power suddenly.

Your problem was almost certainly caused by conflicting router
settings, and has nothing to do with the FP4 per se; your original
message indicates that the internals of router configuration are not
your usual area, so... [I have not seen the other replies, so I can't
follow the details of your logic]

And I would add a caution about relying on Novell for Macintosh
networking; yes it may work today but their commitment to long term
support and so on has a wishy-washy track record. Macs are definately
number two or lower on their list.

Benjamin k Grossman
Network Administrator, Lake Washington School District
[e-mail]


___________________________________________________________________

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 00:11:48 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <[e-mail]>
Subject: Forms generation (A)

>Does anyone in the Mac world have recommendations for "forms"
generators?

Shana
voice 403-463-3330
fax [phone]

Kee Nethery

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 11:36:49 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: FoxBase- redirect debug window output to a file

Is it possible to redirect output, instead to the debug window, to
a file? What I want to do is to save the info shown in the debug
window. Any idea?

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 02:52:18 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: FullWrite Press Release

Here's the press release on Fullwrite's future:

 ---------------------------Original message----------------------------
Akimbo Systems
11 Rose Street
Somerville, Mass 02143
617-776-5500

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


            Akimbo Systems Acquires
       FullWrite Professional Word Processor and
           Announces Support & Upgrade Plans

(July 19, 1993, SOMERVILLE, MA) ... Akimbo Systems announced
today that it has acquired rights to the FullWrite Professional
word processor from Borland International, Inc.  Effective
immediately,  Akimbo Systems assumes upgrade, support, and
maintenance responsibilities for FullWrite.
    "We're very pleased that we were able to acquire FullWrite,"
said Kelly Moutsos, FullWrite product manager at Akimbo Systems.
"As one of the most powerful word processors available for the
Macintosh, FullWrite has always had a dedicated following.  As a
Macintosh-only developer, we can concentrate upon giving this
product a great upgrade."
    "An upgrade would make many users very happy," according to
Neil J. Salkind, author of Que's award-winning Big Mac Book.
"Users of FullWrite have been asking for an upgrade for a long
time.  FullWrite is already a first-class word processor; a solid
upgrade will make it even more attractive."
    Gene Thomas, manager of AIS Computers in Savannah, Georgia,
applauds the acquisition. "The return of FullWrite allows business
people, academics, and writers to achieve quality finished product
without sacrificing what brought most of us to the Macintosh in
the first place. It will be the recommended professional writing
tool in our store."
    FullWrite is a powerful, easy-to-use word processor with some
desktop publishing features.  The package includes a fully
integrated outliner as well as a complete graphics environment.
FullWrite is suitable for an extensive range of documents  -  from
simple, one-page memos to business reports to entire books.

Major Upgrade Planned for Q1 1994 Shipment

    Work is already in progress on a major software upgrade, to
be called FullWrite 2, according to Moutsos.  "We're proceeding
aggressively, well aware that our users have anticipated an
upgrade for some time."  FullWrite 2 is scheduled to ship in the
first quarter of 1994.
    The key features of FullWrite 2 include: Full Macintosh
System 7 support, including Balloon Help, Publish/Subscribe, and
Apple Events (the core set plus over 250 others); an improved
interface which is more accessible and friendlier to beginning as
well as advanced users; improved import and export functionality,
allowing users to convert files to and from other word processor
programs; and color support, including on-screen color pictures.
    FullWrite 1.5s, the current version, runs on any Macintosh
system having 2MB of memory or more under System 6, or 4MB of
memory or more under System 7; 1MB of hard disk space is required
(3MB is recommended).  These specs are anticipated to remain the
same for the upgraded product.

Customer Support for FullWrite

    Akimbo Systems has established a support forum on America
Online along with E-mail addresses designated for users of
FullWrite.  Members of America Online can use the keyword
FullWrite to access the forum, which is located in the Macintosh
Desktop Publishing area.  Additionally, users may send technical
support and general questions to [e-mail].   Users also
may send or fax written requests concerning technical support
questions or suggestions.
    The other E-mail address, [e-mail], is for people
who want to contribute ideas, suggestions, and wish lists for the
next release of FullWrite.
    Akimbo Systems has selected Software Support, Inc., of
Heathrow, Florida, specialists in end-user customer support,  as
the provider of fee-based phone support.  Software Support
staffers are trained to answer a wide range of questions about
FullWrite.  Several support plans are available.  Users can call
Software Support at 800-756-4463, Monday through Friday between
8:30-5:00 EST.

Ordering Information

    FullWrite 2 will be priced at $395. Pricing for the upgrade
will be announced shortly.  Registered users will be sent notice
of the upgrade; those users who have not yet registered their
copies of FullWrite should send their registration cards to Akimbo
Systems, 11 Rose Street, Somerville, MA 02143.  First-time
purchasers of FullWrite may place orders by writing to the
above-mentioned address or by phoning/faxing 617-776-5500.

About Akimbo Systems

    Akimbo Systems, founded in 1991, is a privately-held firm
based in Somerville, Mass. The company develops, produces, and
markets powerful, general purpose, easy-to-use productivity
software.

- 30 -

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 12:59:03 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Monty Hampton)
Subject: Hypercard Font Problem (TY)

I recently posted a question regarding a problem that Type-1 fonts were
causing with an old Hypercard stack I had created. Most of the fields had
the text displayed inappropriately and some of the text in the field was
clipped off. I was distributing the disk to students who ended up using
them with a variety of CPUs and Systems, so some would encounter it while
others wouldn't.

I received several suggestions and wish to thank: Conrad H. Gempf, Matt
Neuburg, James Prescott and Richard Rathe.

A special thanks to Conrad who provide a very detailed description of a
solution that worked wonderfully. Essentially it amounts to installing the
old fonts directly into the stack by using the Font-DA mover and holding
down the option key to open the stack. Worked like a charm. This adds to
the size of the stack, but minimally!

Many Thanks!! I am very appreciative of the help that is so readily
avialable from Info-Mac subscribers.



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Date: 20 Jul 1993 13:58:10 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Info about the Apple Newton MessagePad

(I know this isn't exactly Macintosh-oriented information, but I think
it'll be of interest to a lot of the people who read this newsgroup.)

Motivated by curiosity about what this much-hyped Newton will be, I've
done a little research.  Here's the information I've gathered from
various sources, primarily MacWeek and comp.sys.pen.  (Caveat lector,
as usual: just because it's here doesn't mean it's true.  I don't have
any 'inside information' about the Newton, so there will be errors here.)

 -------
The Apple Newton MessagePad Communications Assistant.
Due to be released on August 2, the day before the Macworld Expo in Boston.

Available in three configurations:
- Base model, no modem.  $700 suggested retail price.
- With external 2400 baud modem (which can send faxes).  $800 SRP.
- Bundle with Newton, modem, "Newton Connection Pro" (kit with software
    & cable for sharing data between the Newton and a Mac or Windows
    desktop or notebook computer).  $900 SRP.

(note that those prices are VERY ROUGH and will probably be
 considerably lower on the street!  I'd guess $500-$700.)

Palm-sized, 16 ounces, 7.5"x4.5"x.75".  Screen is a little under 4x3
inches, touch-sensitive LCD, 336x240 tall.  It comes with two plastic
styluses (the second is a spare in case you lose the first), but you
can use any blunt tip on the screen, including your finger.  Screen
LCD is by Sharp.  Not backlit.

Comes with four built-in applications: a notepad, a to-do list, a name
file, and a datebook.  These are very similar to HyperCard stacks.  The
Newton will not use the same "desktop" paradigm as the Macintosh.  No
dictionary or thesaurus are included.  A system password protects your data.

Text entry is freeform (you don't have to write in squares like on
some other PDA's), and handwriting recognition has been reported to be
passable, but not perfect.

PCMCIA cards (memory, modems, etc.) can be added for expansion.
The Newton has one PCMCIA 2.0 Type II slot.

PCMCIA Cards planned by Apple:
- 1Mb memory expansion card, under $200.
- 2Mb memory expansion card, about $250.
- Messaging Card (Motorola-built wireless communications card that lets it
    act as a beeper and receive email), about $250.

PCMCIA, in case you couldn't figure it out, stands for "People Can't
Make Clear, Intuitive Acronyms."  (not!)

Hardware specs on the MessagePad:

640k RAM, of which 192k is for user data (enough for several hundred
items of the info the Newton is designed for -- names/addresses, brief
notes, calendar entries -- with room left over for several dozen sketches).

32-bit ARM 610 RISC processor @ 20MHz.

4Mb ROM (twice as big as those in the high-end 660av and 840av Macs).

Infrared interface (like the one on a TV remote control) that lets two
Newtons (pointed at each other no more than 3 feet apart) exchange data.

Serial LocalTalk RS-422 port (similar to the GeoPort in the 660av and
840av) that lets the Newton connect to an external faxmodem, Mac or
Windows systems, a StyleWriter, or (via an AppleTalk network) a LaserWriter.

Batteries: four alkaline AA (AAA?) batteries, which can last for
several days of use.  AC adapter & backup battery are included.
Built-in lithium cell so memory isn't lost when changing batteries.
The Newton probably does not include a built-in battery charger like
the Powerbooks.

No cover for screen (like early prototypes had), but slipcase is included.
Leather slip case can be purchased separately.

Includes speaker (which isn't used for much), headphone jack, and
volume control.  No microphone.  Some prototypes had a speaker at the
top and a microphone at the bottom, like a telephone handset -- hmmmmm!

4 more models (including heavy-duty "Brutus") could be released over
the next 6 months.

For a recorded Newton ad, call 800-7-NEWTON.  (800-763-9866)
(I called it.  It's very cute.  They even refer to "making a
boo-boo" at one point.)

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 11:25:31 EDT
From: Thomas Smyth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macworld Boston info. (Q)

Would some kind soul please send information on Macworld Boston (dates,
location [directions from the train station would be helpful!], registr.
costs, best day(s) to attend, etc.)?  Thanks very much.

          Thomas Smyth ([e-mail])
          Univ. of South Carolina - Aiken

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 11:41:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Prof K. V. Rao" <[e-mail]>
Subject: McSink and Style Writer II

I am having problems in trying to print a document from McSink on a
Style Writer II. It simply freezes and I've to restart when I try to
print. On the other hand I've no problem in printing from McSink on a
Laser Writer in the office. I am using McSink 7.0a version on Mac Classic
II with style writer II attached to it. If you've a solution to this,
please let me know.
K.V. Rao

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 08:43:56 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Chris Ursich)
Subject: Movie2Snd reply

In Info-mac Digest #143,
Tim Castle <[e-mail]> asks:

> Does anyone know a way to extract the sound out
> of a QuickTime movie and put it into a System 7
> sound file?  It seems like there was a utility mentioned
> recently, but I can't remember what or where it was.

The utility is called "Movie2Snd" and is freeware.
It is in the Info-mac archives and can be
obtained from [e-mail]
with an e-mail message reading:
$MACARCH GET SND/UTIL/MOVIE-2-SND.HQX

I have used it and it works very well.
I hope this message gets through because I have never
asked or answered an Info-mac question before.

Chris Ursich
[e-mail]

"Science is built of facts the way a house is built of
bricks; but an accumulation of facts is no more a science
than a pile of bricks is a house."
       --Henri Poincare, La Science et L'hypothese

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 19:04:05 -0400
From: "Terry M. Stader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MS Word 4.00(?) and System 7.1

MS will ship you the 4.00e release free of charge (they did for me)
that will work with the Centris models that use the 040 processor! Give
them a call... I got mine the next day!

Terry Stader - KA8SCP
America Online Ham Radio Club Host (tstader)

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Date: 20 Jul 93 12:53:45 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Ken  Linger )
Subject: My Gripe With SCSI

Not that I've been losing sleep over this, it just bugs me.  Why is it that
whenever you buy an external SCSI device, you get a Mac to SCSI cable with
it?
Then, if you buy a second SCSI device, you get another useless Mac to SCSI
cable.  And, every subsequent SCSI device comes with an equally useless
cable.
They're smart, though.  Without the addition of other SCSI ports or extenders,
you cannot have more than 7 useless Mac to SCSI cables(*).

Isn't the purpose of SCSI to be daisy chainable?  Why then isn't the Mac to
SCSI cable the same as a SCSI to SCSI cable or why don't you have the option
of getting a new hard drive, CD ROM, SyQuest, etc. with either cable?  And,
why can't I find any of my numerous Mac to SCSI cables that I'm complaining
about?

Boy, this should make the 6 o'clock news!

Ken Linger
[e-mail]

(*) Performance based on SCSI IDs 0-7, no internal hard drive, 8 SCSI devices,
one of which uses a Mac to SCSI cable.  Milage shouldn't vary, but if it does,
I'll trust that someone will tell me.

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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 23:08:59 CDT
From: Rick Russell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Need bad-block checker BADLY! (R)

In reply to:

> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 93 01:28:29 -0500
> From: [e-mail] (Wonko the Sane)
> Subject: Need bad-block checker BADLY!

> I'm trying to find a util that'll find and lock off bad blocks on a disk.
> Recently I've been plagued with disk errors on my aging floppies and on a
> Syquest cart that was the victim of an insidious mechanism crashed.  In
> all cases the data already on the disks is OK, but the blank spaces are
> aparently fried.  I've got an old version of Mactools, which merely
> crashes before even checking for bad blocks.  I've gotta lock these suckers
> off or I'm out of 10MB of free disk space for no good reason.
>
> Help is GREATLY appreciated.

Fixing (or marking out) bad blocks is normally the duty of the
formatting software which comes with the hard drive (such as a Syquest
hard drive).

I've recently had an adventure with Mirror's "Media Manager" hard
drive formatting software that came with my RM88 (Syquest 5110), and I
thought I'd post my situation to the net. Sympathetic e-mail is
appreciated.

Recently, one of my 88MB Syquest carts gave up the ghost. I couldn't
write any new data to the cart, but I could read the data OK. I backed
it up and decided to attack it with the Media Manager software.

I read the manual first; it seemed sensible to try and "Erase/Format"
the disk for starters. No dice; after several starts and stops, the
erased disk had the same problem as the unerased version: attempts to
write to it resulted in errors.

Attack 2: Use the "Test Drive" feature to isolate bad sectors and
format around them. I tested the drive (a 100 minute process), and
checked the "defect list". Sure enough, the test detected about 28 bad
sectors out of about 173000. Not bad, but enough to cripple the cart I
suppose.

Following the manual, I then "Erase/Format"ted the drive again, firm
in my belief that the program would format around the bad sectors and
mark them off. It didn't work! In fact, the disk was still getting
write errors!

What could be wrong? Fortunately, the Mirror driver records errors and
stores them on the drive; using the Media Manager software I was able
to examine this "Error Log". _Most of the sectors in the error log
were also on the defect list I had generated earlier._ This was a
major surprise, since the Media Manager software was supposed to
format around those bad blocks and mark them, so the Mac was never
supposed to write to them!

The only conclusion was that the Media Manager software was, in fact,
ignoring the defect list entirely, and it was leaving the bad sectors
accessible. This behavior is in direct contradiction to the
information in the manual.

Attack 3: Throw out the Media Manager software, which was clearly
defective. I used the information in the file
/mac/misc/documentation/modifyinghdscsetup.txt on
mac.archive.umich.edu to modify my Apple HD SC Setup program to work
with non-Apple drives. The initialization process took about 2 hours
for each cartridge, but it worked. It apparently successfully isolated
the bad sectors, and the disk was just fine.

It behaves a bit strangely for a Syquest cart (since the Apple HD SC
software doesn't know what a removable hard drive is :-), but it's
better than no cartridge at all. SCSIProbe's auto-mounting init makes
up for the strange behavior by providing automatic mounting and clean
ejection capabilities.

Well, that's the story. BTW, I dragged Mirror tech support into this
at one point, and I have to say that the experience was extremely
un-edifying. The Mirror support person knew virtually nothing about
the SQ mechanism, and seemed to seriously doubt whether I had a Mirror
hard drive at all. It was very bizarre, and the tech person was very
rude. I almost thought I'd called the wrong company :-(

This is particularly annoying since I wrote a favorable review of the
Mirror RM88 mechanism (on sumex in /info/hdwr/mirror-rm88-review.txt).
I daresay that had I known that Mirror's tech support would be so
poor, I would have mentioned it prominently in my review. The same
goes for the problems with the Media Manager software.

  #      Rick Russell | TAMU Meteorology | [e-mail]       #

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 11:04:40 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Michael Jensen)
Subject: Pinouts for Monitor

Help!  I'm looking for the pinout for the built-in monitor connector on a
IIvx.  Please direct me to the right place if this isn't, or if it's
FTPable.
Thanks!
Michael Jensen_____________________________________________
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 08:45:48 MET DST
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: RasterOps incompatibilities? (C)

[e-mail] (Ken  Linger ) wrote:
> The card is apparently old (circa 1990) which I wasn't told when I
> bought it. The documentation knows nothing about System 7 and only
> discusses different versions of System 6. Also, I have a Daystar
> 50 Mhz w/math ship. Is it conflicting maybe with that?

Latest ROM revision for the RasterOps 8L card is 1.45. RasterOps says that
all ROM versions from 1.3 (and higher) work with System 7; the versions
lower than 1.3 don't. Also, the up-to-date version of the RasterOps
Extension is 1.68. The extension is available for download in AppleLink,
Path: 3rdParty:RasterOps:ROME168

The ROM can be purchased from RasterOps at US$ 50. Order by sending an
AppleLink message to RASTERHELP. Note that they chose not to receive
email to their AppleLink address from the internet; such messages would
bounce back.

RasterOps Tech service is somewhere in Utah, but I've lost their phone
number. I'm sure if you call RasterOps at [phone] (Santa Clara,
CA), they can give you the number.

I also noticed that the startup screens with the 8L card (in a IIci with
16 mB RAM) come b/w only, but I think it's because the card is accessed
only after the startup screen has been displayed. It's not a problem for
me; our company logo looks also great in black and white.

Best regards, Christian.       [e-mail]

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Date: 20 Jul 1993 07:57:41 +0000 (U)
From: George Tempel <[e-mail]>
Subject: re- john pugh

              re: john pugh
>Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 20:38:10 -0700
>From: [e-mail] (Jon Pugh)
>Subject: A New Jon Pugh
>
>Well, call me 20% of the workforce and lay me off.  You guessed it, I'm
>toast and sporting a new user id at prestigous netcom.  I'll tell you,
>facing life without net access is a lot scarier than looking for work.

I'm so sorry to hear about this Jon, but am glad that you still are
able to participate on the 'net. Your insights and wit have always
been and still are welcome in my part of cyberspace.

If you ever find yourself having to come out east to jersey
drop us a line.

george tempel
GEO-CENTERS, Inc. (no, it's not _my_ company)
908/544-2673
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: 20 Jul 1993 11:37:28 +0200
From: Maurizio Codogno <[e-mail]>
Subject: SUMMARY: advice for text editor

I asked some days ago the following:

% I am searching for a text editor (*NOT* a word processor!) for Mac with the
% following characteristics:
%
% - fixed width characters
% - capability of editing large files (let's say 300K ones)
% - capability of searching for text and to set logical marks.

Thanks to :
Povl H. Pedersen ([e-mail])
Geert Jan Bex ([e-mail])
Larry K. Smith ([e-mail])
[e-mail]
Darin Takemoto ([e-mail])

There had been 4 suggestion. Two are commercial programs: MPW, available from
APDA, which is not only an editor, but rather a complete development
environment; and Qued/M, from Nisus Software, Inc.

Then there are the freeware BBedit, which is now at version 2.2.2, and the
shareware Alpha, whose last release is 5.31.

Thanks to all who answered!
       .mau.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 07:25:35 BST
From: Richard Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: System can't be installed & a whimsical floppy drive (R)

>1) I recently reformated my external HD from Frog Systems (a Rodime
mechanism)
>   with SilverLining 5.4.2. Then I tried to install System 7.1 onto it. I
>   kept getting message as such "There is a problem with the disk. No
>   installation can take place (error # 2231)." No luck even after
>    re-initializations. What's wrong with the HD?
>2) Recently the floppy drive of my SE/30 keeps recognizing un-locked
>   floppy disks (DD or HD) as "locked". What's is more annoying is
>   it behaves not consistently. Sometimes I ejected and re-inserted the same
>   disks and they came up as "un-locked." This SE/30 is installed a
>   24-bit color card and with a configuration of 8/80. What should I do
>   with the problem?

1: - I've had this problem with Rodime drives - I think it's to do with the
non-Apple driver that's installed, or an incompatibility with the drives'
ROM.
The only answer I've found is to use another brand hard drive and use the
Rodimes as non-boot drives.

2: - This one's easy, there's a small mechanical switch at the front left of
the
FDHD mechanism which detects whether the disk is locked or not by reading the
state of the locking slider. If the disk is unlocked, the switch gets pressed
down when the disk is in, conversely the switch is not pressed when the disk
is
locked.

So - the problem is either the switch itself, which is fairly easy for a
competent electronics type to change, or in the adjustment of the disk holder
platform, or in the adjustment of the drive within the housing. In the latter
two cases, it's possible for the drive to work when the disk holder is not
quite
fully seated in the 'inserted' position, but the 'locked/unlocked' switch may
not work. It's also possible for the disk itself to get fouled up on the front
of the Mac case, which can have the same effect, and is fairly easy to adjust,
so long as you don't mind opening up your Mac.

Sorry about the long-winded answer to this one - hope it helps!
Cheers,
Richard

Hardware & Systems Executive
NorthEast Macintosh User Group

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 14:39:34 CST
From: "Wade Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Uploading info-mac to AOL

As a forum assistant in the Macintosh Development Forum on America Online,
I can assure everyone that the info-mac digests are sorely missed and we
would love to have someone continue the good work of Paul Bain who used to
volunteer his time, but has since lost his Internet connection.

All time spent uploading to America Online is free.  Additionally, I
believe that our Forum leader will occassionally credit whomever volunteers
with some free hours.  However, I do not have the power to make that
decision and as such, you should not consider that any kind of promise.

If you are interested in spending some free time uploading the digest to
the Macintosh Development Forum (keyword MDV), please send Email to
[e-mail].  That's Chris Allen, the Macintosh Development Forum
Leader.  As I said, any hours you spend uploading are free, but Chris will
probably be willing to give you x number of hours per month free, providing
the digests are uploaded in a timely manner.

(Incidentally, I don't currently upload them because I no longer have a Mac
at work and the headache of the file conversion would be a major pain.)

Wade Williams                         Forum Consultant
Network Support Specialist            Macintosh Development Forum
Auburn University                     America Online
[e-mail]               [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 20:51:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Vertical Persuassion ?

Is it possible to use a vertical slide format in
Aldus Persuassion ?  I can't find it in the manual.

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Date: 20 Jul 93 10:29:00 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: WORD 5.1/IICI PROBLEMS

Has anyone else seen this problem?  If so, any suggestions?

MacIIci, 20Mb, Daystar PowerCache, System 7.1, Word 5.1A, 32 bit mode.

In 24 bit addressing, there is no problem.  32 bit mode exhibits the
following symptoms:

When we start Word, it loads the splash screen, puts up the menu bar, and
freezes.  The whole system locks up.  Cmd-Opt-Esc makes the cursor turn to
mishmash.  The programmer's switch doesn't do ANYTHING.  Reset is the only
option.  We've tried reloading the System Files, reloading Word 5.1A from a
different set of master disks in the department, and nothing works.  Older
versions of Word still work fine.  Other applications (like Kaleidegraph
3.17 and other large, recent programs) work fine in 32 bit mode as well.

Please, I know how to check for INIT compatibility, so no FAQ answers about
removing INITs; I just want to know if you have seen this particular
problem before and if so how you solved it.

Thanks in advance!

--Brandon Munday


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